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Elaine Wilson — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:02:59 GMT

Easy, Just take yourself off to the doctor and ask for a bone density test to be done.. This will settle once and for all if you are getting enough calcium for your bones..

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snakeau — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:09:56 GMT

Thanks for your kind comments Michelle.

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dabest — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 05:04:45 GMT

i try to get low fat dairy products because i prefer them, not because of health reasons. i like dairy products a little less creamy

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ShawDeborah — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 21:57:59 GMT

Goodness me, what a stir this has caused. Everyone has their own expert opinion. It is their right to have an opinion.

Do not change your eating habits because of something you read here. Nutritionists say we need calcium. Dairy is a good source.

If you think you have an intolerance see a health professional.

My children consume dairy. My son is 6'3". Hasn't hurt him.

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michmatt — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 04:24:55 GMT

Snakeau, Thank you for your reply. I do now understand what you are saying. Thanks for clearing that up. But I still think that milk is a good way of getting the calcium that we all need but I guess there are vegetables out there that can provide some of that too. As you said, each to their own. You do have good logic behind what you have said.

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dbowie — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 01:04:06 GMT

You are right about reading labels. I mentioned above about people thinking low fat products are low in calories and therefore overeat.

One friend says she can have 2 Nestle diet yoghurts for 1 of my regular ones.

This is incorrect, as its too much food.

A lot of products that claim to be low fat, infact have more sugar than the regular products.

So we need to be really careful, read our labels, undertand the labels more importantly, watch how much we consume, but overall enjoy our food.

Some low fat and no fat products taste terrible, so I wouldn't dream of buying them. Others are good, so I' happy to buy them.

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gerrymcmullan — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 07:52:43 GMT

I too love dairy and make sure I get my calcium daily but as someone who is on a "healthy life plan" I am careful about the amount of fat and sugar I have on a daily basis.

The best thing is to "READ" the labels on everything and you might be amazed how much fat and sugar is in everything - even low fat products.

Once you start looking it easy to find great low fat cheeses, skinny milk or light yogurt - you need to take the time to investigate the products. Some are much better than others it just depends on your taste buds.

Just say "Cheese" but make mine low fat.

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dbowie — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:19:16 GMT

You are very right.

The amount of vegies you would have to consume would be more than anyone could eat in a week, and to think you are suppose to get a miminum amount of miligrams per day.

I know people who refuse to eat dairy simply to lose weight.

I also know someone who gets there quota of clcium from a 250g cadbury block everyday!

These people aren't getting enough, and they aren't taking a calcium supplement either!

Some diseases we cannot prevent, but some we can try and fight, such as brittle bones, strong teeth, healthy hair and skin, and by eating dairy foods (they dont have to be full fat if you are worried about calories or fat) we can improve and maintain our health.

I dont particularly like the taste of most low fat dairy products, so I enjoy the regular products, but do watch how much I consume.

I also know people who mistakenly believe that just because its got low fat on it, they can eat as much as they want, and most of them overdo it. The calorie content isn't that low that you can overeat them.

I say - LONG LOVE DAIRY. I love it..

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anonymous — Sat, 31 May 2008 17:57:41 GMT

Yes, absolutely you should be eating dairy products and not avoiding them if possible. The main sources of Calcium are dairy products, particularly milk, yoghurt and ice-cream. In gereral low-fat dairy products have roughly the same amount of calcium as regular versions so even if you are opting for low-fat dairy products you wont be any worse off. Although dairy products are the best source of Calcium its not the only one. If you do need to avoid them either because you prefer not to or simply not able to, there are Calcium-enriched non-dairy alternatives.

Certain food products can actually reduce your body's ability to access the Calcium taken in. To get the most from Calcium in food it's best to avoid these particular food products if you're having dairy on the same day. However for vegetarians this wont be possible. These particular foods include:

- Foods such as spinach, rhubarb (vegetables!) and peanuts contain oxylates which interfere with the body's ability to access Calcium obtained from eating dairy products.

- Other vegetables such as beans, peas, lentils, and in certain processed wholegrain and wholemeal cereals (which contain phytates - similar to oxylates)

If you hate your dairy products you can replace these with certain vegies to obtain your Calcium but you would have to eat about 3 plate fulls of greens several times a day to obtain the same amount of Calcium from a large glass of milk! So if you hate your vegies here's another reason you can reduce your intake of leafy greens.

If regard to weight issues with dairy products it's really down to whether the fats in that particular brand of product contain unsaturated or saturated fats. Unsaturated fatty acids are better for your body than saturated fatty acids. A lot of people tend to restrict their dairy intake believing them to be fattening. Dairy foods contain saturated fats which is associted with increased blood cholesterol levels. However, dairy foods are not a threat to good health if consumed in moderation as part of a well-balanced nutritious diet. If you limit your dairy intake yet still downing cans of coke and eating chips, biscuits and tim tams than your no better off.

Low intake of dairy foods can result in Osteoporosis caused by inadequate intake of Calcium, as wells as blood pressure - caused by low intake of dairy but high intake of fruit and vegies. Not to mention my personal main concern - bad teeth! Low intake of Calcium causes tooth decay as your teeth draw on a large amount of Calcium to remain healthy and white. A diet low in Calcium can cause your teeth to rot and increases the chance of having cavities.

(so that post about relying on vegies as their only source of calcium is an absolute load of bollocks).

People that completely avoid dairy tend to be unhealthier, prone to Osteoporosis, and fatter than those who include diary in their diet. I'll leave the choice up to you - but for me its not really a choice: Fit and healthy or rotten teeth and bad bones?

Ah.... finally! All those years spent at uni have finally paid off and I can actually use some of that knowledge to educate people who think vegetables provides sufficient levels of Calcium! A Masters in Science is no use when your working in real estate!

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snakeau — Sat, 31 May 2008 07:42:32 GMT

Sorry...I don't think you've quite got what I'm on about. I'm not saying every species should drink milk at all.

What I mean is that cows' milk is best for calves, not humans. Human milk is best for humans, but only in infancy (if, as you say, one is not intolerant). Most milks contain nothing that an adult human needs that cannot be had from other sources, and a lot of things (like excess fat and energy) that adult humans definitely *don't* need. You're absolutely correct - our bodies are meant to eat certain types of foods, it's just that milk products are not among them.

We've only been drinking cows' milk for some 10 - 15 thousand years (I think) when cattle were first domesticated. Sure, it tastes great and you can make a lot of yummy stuff with it, but all I'm trying to say is that we're not designed for it and there are more and more known health risks associated with it.

Most people can tolerate dairy products and it certainly makes life hard for those who can't. I should point out here that I tolerate dairy quite well - I just choose to avoid it (without going overboard) for health reasons.

All that said, I'm no doctor and I'm quite prepared to be proven wrong. If anyone can, I'll be the first to get stuck into a bowl of strawberries and cream (pure...King Island...Oh, how I miss it).

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dbowie — Sat, 31 May 2008 05:47:14 GMT

I simply meant we've been drinking milk since the creation of man. Its a normal function of women and providing you are not intolerant, then babies need milk.

I didn't mean if we drink milk, so should every species. I was referring to humans only.

But yes its natural that humans drink milk, horses eat grass etc. Our bodies are meant to eat certain types of foods.

I didn't think I inferred that we were drinking or eating other species food and drink.

I simply meant we have been drinking milk since the beginning of man, and therefore we were meant to have milk, and therefore other dairy products, like cheese and yoghurt.

I love dairy foods, and feel sorry for those who are intolerant or allergic.

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snakeau — Fri, 30 May 2008 22:18:41 GMT

If dbowie's comment is in relation to my last, several things come to mind:

1 - We've been drinking mothers' milk since way before Old Testament days.

2 - The fact that it is natural does not contradict, but is not relevant to what I said. It is natural for horses to eat grass, but is anyone suggesting that, just because they do it, we should too?

3 - There is no entailment that because we were born to drink [our mothers'] milk, we are also able to consume other cross-species dairy products without penalty.

That said, if you like dairy products and can consume them without discomfort, then go nuts. Each to his (her) own.

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dbowie — Fri, 30 May 2008 14:05:02 GMT

Yes, we all have been drinking milk since the Old Testaments days. A baby was born, and placed on the mothers *** to have what is entirely natural.

It is normal for a baby to drink its mothers milk.

Therefore we were born to drink milk, and of course, other dairy products.

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snakeau — Fri, 30 May 2008 12:08:59 GMT

Michelle,

An increasing amount of evidence is pointing to a link between dairy products and *** and other cancers. It stands to reason that the milk of any species would be designed to confer the most benefit to that particular species, therefore for any other species it would be second-best.

In addition, more and more humans are becoming allergic to cows' milk, which is also being linked to congestive diseases of the sinuses and lungs.

As far as not consuming it beyond infancy goes, can you think of a single species (other than human) that actually does this? Milk is designed to be easily consumed by infant creatures without fully functional dentition, to be easily digested by creatures of that age and to deliver higher fat and energy quotients than are required at later ages. It also confers immunity from the mother's system, again, something we do not need as we get older.

Hope this suffices.

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ravian97 — Thu, 29 May 2008 12:20:55 GMT

Well natural things cannot be compared to artificial products like vitamens, minerals or calcium. Also I believe what nature has given you, you take it as it is. So instead of going and finding processed product I believe you concentrate on full cream milk, yougurt etc. The quantity can be lowered instead of high intake. But I believe natural make humans not destroy them until required. So live according to laws of nature and eat what is provided naturally and no big dramas. Rest all are marketing compaigns nothing else.